meeting with arthur and tim 9-3-25
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[00:00:00] Ryan Michaels: Do you happen 

[00:00:22] Arthur- Town Manager: to know? 

[00:00:23] Ryan Michaels: Is there a 

[00:00:24] Arthur- Town Manager: plugin that could get. There's one behind the desk over auto reach. What reach? Yeah, sure. As 

[00:00:34] Ryan Michaels: long as you don't mind. I don't mind. 

[00:00:38] Arthur- Town Manager: Thank you.

[00:00:43] Ryan Michaels: As much as these things cost, the battery 

[00:00:45] Arthur- Town Manager: lasts like an hour. I know if that, if that maybe, maybe off out of the boxer left. Use them. You replace it after two years.[00:01:00] 

[00:01:00] Arthur- Town Manager: Do you have it now? Uh, yeah, 

[00:01:04] Ryan Michaels: that's it. Thank you.

[00:01:13] Ryan Michaels: Alright. And you guys mentioned you wanted to record too. You guys all set with that? We're good. It's, uh, this ram is okay.

[00:01:27] Ryan Michaels: Sorry, just got your one on you, but, all right. Um, I have this, I wanted to hand to you first.

[00:01:37] Ryan Michaels: This is the same exact thing handed to both you. Yep. Um, so, and I wrote this down. I'm doing this just to try to keep us all on track. Mostly for me, like I mentioned, I have a hundred percent dis visibility. Um, it's hard for me to process things, so I'm gonna just read a little more straightforward, uh, chief Town and Mr.

[00:01:56] Ryan Michaels: Capello, thank you for meeting with me today. I prepared this one page timeline [00:02:00] so that we are looking at the same facts. It shows dates, names in a consistent pattern. Promises made to me follow up that never happened, inaccurate reports entered into the record, and in some cases, dismissive or even mocking treatment from your staff.

[00:02:13] Ryan Michaels: What's most concerning to me is that even when I correct the record with proof, like providing recordings that show what was actually said, I'm ignored and the inaccurate reports remain uncorrected. And that tells me that facts aren't being valued here the way that they should be. And that is unacceptable.

[00:02:30] Ryan Michaels: And I'm not bringing this forward to argue over every detail. I'm bringing it forward to show the bigger picture, a pattern of neglect, retaliation, and stonewalling that has real impacts on my life, my rights, and my children. And I'd like to hand you this timeline. That's what I just gave you so that you can see the sequence in black and white.

[00:02:46] Ryan Michaels: And I'd like to hear how you explain this pattern and more importantly, what you're prepared to do about it. And I guess that's to either or, or both. 

[00:02:55] Arthur- Town Manager: Okay.

[00:02:58] Arthur- Town Manager: I'm gonna, I'll let you, [00:03:00] you speak chief. I'll jump in. I'll have a timeline. I have a timeline. Yeah. I dunno that there's anything that we can respond to today just because we, just seeing this timeline in that sense. Okay. Um, now as, as far as emails and stuff go, the one thing I will ask you is if you're emailing a different community or different factions for four year requests, if you could just drop the chief and eye off of it.

[00:03:25] Arthur- Town Manager: 'cause what happens is just get buried in Austin, potentially delay a response to you. So if it's something dealing with burwick, by all means send it to the chief and I, but if it's something dealing like your last one that you just sent to bid. We don't need beyond those. It just gets buried and it slows down the process.

[00:03:42] Arthur- Town Manager: Okay. Do you 

[00:03:42] Ryan Michaels: not see how that's connected in Benford? Like the No trespass that you guys handed me? It's got no, it's got no bearing on the Burwick side, and so the facts have no bearing on the Burwick side. 

[00:03:53] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Okay. This is all, that's, that's correct. The stuff that you're dealing with in Bedford, Maine is Bedford.[00:04:00] 

[00:04:00] Ryan Michaels: Correct. But you handed me that. I gave the entire department, I gave an email to you and every single officer that worked here prior to that being handed. To me and said, do not do this. Do your diligence, you know, investigate. Mm-hmm. Prior to doing that, because it's unlawful and pilkington, and forgive me on record, I want to say I thought it was lock, but his name's Pilkington.

[00:04:19] Ryan Michaels: It was that individual who showed up and told me, and I recorded the whole thing and said that he barely skimmed my emails, which the email said, look into this before you hand it to me. It's unlawful. He handed it to me anyway. And this is someone who works under you? Correct. And he writes the record and says that I'm not cooperative.

[00:04:37] Ryan Michaels: That's what that piece of paper says, that I paid $129 for to get everything. And in that paper on that day, he wrote that I'm not cooperative. 

[00:04:46] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Mm-hmm. And you and I have already discussed that. I'm asking you right now. I, you and I have already discussed that in person. Okay. I met with you and Ms. Mr.

[00:04:54] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Michaels in person to have a reasonable conversation with you. I attempted to do [00:05:00] that again. Mm-hmm. And here we are today. You've made a complaint about me. That is my boss I'm now burdened with. I'm not able to talk to you until that's resolved. You're burdened. Did you hear what I just said? Yes. I just said that.

[00:05:18] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Yes, I did. Mr. Michaels. Mm-hmm. And, and he And it, what you just did is exactly why I am telling you on video that you're having difficulty with people. Because every time somebody talks to you, it becomes more and more and more and more involved. Mm-hmm. Right? 

[00:05:38] Arthur- Town Manager: Mm-hmm. That's 

[00:05:39] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: why I cannot have a reasonable conversation with you as a human being.

[00:05:45] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: You don't allow it. This is what we end up with, Mr. Michaels. Yeah. Look. Look. This is you. This is Mr. Michaels. Yeah. I have sex cases that don't involve this. Mm-hmm. Are you [00:06:00] happy about that? I like, are you happy that I'm spending my time dealing with your stuff when this, there's absolutely criminal activity going on.

[00:06:11] Ryan Michaels: I would love, and I'm not even gonna say that. I love that. That is absolutely disgusting that you just framed it in that way. Do you like seeing your kids, Mr. Michaels? No. Do not redirect this. Mr. Michael, do you have other crimes you could be dealing with? This isn't a crime. I haven't seen my kids in 16 months.

[00:06:26] Ryan Michaels: I am 100%. 

[00:06:28] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Fully aware that you are allowed to see your kids and you are not seeing them. So you're putting it on me. I am. Would you like to see the documentation? Sure. It is the court order that you have. Why not? Stating that you need to get mental health evaluation. Do you not? This is the judgment. Did you hear everything?

[00:06:50] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: This is the judgment 

[00:06:51] Ryan Michaels: right here. You're now bringing mental health into this. I'm, I haven't been able to say anything. He's got a piece of paper in front of me, says both of [00:07:00] you, you're not gonna read and that you can't get back to you. Right now, the only thing this guy has done is turn everything on me.

[00:07:05] Ryan Michaels: I have not. I need to get mental health issues. He's got real crime. It's recorded. Sir, 

[00:07:09] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: when you are ready to have a reasonable conversation with me, I'm more than happy to talk with you. This is not what I call reasonable. Alright. If two human beings can't talk, I gave you without being audio videotaped, there's something wrong.

[00:07:22] Ryan Michaels: There is something wrong that someone has to audio tape. Why? Right? Because So let's talk about records because you're 

[00:07:27] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: choosing 

[00:07:28] Ryan Michaels: to, sir, when I speak, can you listen to me? It is like you get a page right outta of Denise's book. Okay. I'm speaking and I'd like to be heard. Okay? I am. I'm hearing you. I'm hearing you reading you.

[00:07:37] Ryan Michaels: I speak right now. On that day that he delivered on March 14th gave me that trespass order, and he will. I am no longer discussing 

[00:07:48] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: the trespass thing. We're not going to talk about that. We've addressed it. I addressed it in writing. I am not going to sit here and listen to it again. That issue is 

[00:07:57] Ryan Michaels: over. Sir, can I speak with you for a [00:08:00] moment?

[00:08:00] Ryan Michaels: This isn't working. I what he's referencing, he's putting everything into a bucket and throwing it out there. But what I'm saying is new is today I'm asking about why his officer writes on that paper, a record like these that I have to pay to get and says, I'm 

[00:08:15] Arthur- Town Manager: not cooperative. I have the whole thing recorded because I gotta put faith that the officer recorded what he felt or saw or, so you're putting faith.

[00:08:23] Arthur- Town Manager: But when I come to 

[00:08:23] Ryan Michaels: you with facts. And I clearly have to record that everything do all i's Dott and DS cross give it to you and you just don't wanna talk to. I watched 

[00:08:31] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: that audio and video and my officer, I would've written the exact same thing, would you? If you were uncooperative just like you are today, you're not willing to have a reasonable conversation with us.

[00:08:45] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: You're literally talking about an event that happened months and months ago that has no bearing on your children. You came here telling me that you were having a hard time seeing your children. You and I talked as men. [00:09:00] I talked. Did I not talk to you, Mr. Michaels? Is 

[00:09:04] Ryan Michaels: that not true? I'm 100% disabled. I stop it from anxiety, depression, PTSD, and insomnia, other things, right?

[00:09:11] Ryan Michaels: And it's easy to get triggered. This whole conversation is one way off the rest of the, then we probably should stop. Excuse me. No, I don't think so. I have things that I'm here to talk about that's taken me. How long is at this meeting? You just said you gave me trigger. Okay. What does that mean? I don't know.

[00:09:30] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: What does it 

[00:09:30] Ryan Michaels: mean you are not? God gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason. Mm-hmm. And I suggest you start listening. 

[00:09:40] Arthur- Town Manager: I speaking like that is not gonna get anybody to listen. That's, and nobody is talking. That's gonna get, that's gonna get me to say this meeting's over. Of course it would be. That's all you got.

[00:09:50] Arthur- Town Manager: Let's start this. 

[00:09:51] Ryan Michaels: I'm gonna go right down the paper that we, Diane said, you're not gonna do anything with. Let's look at that. Said that we weren't gonna do anything with it. We said we would review it on July 2nd through [00:10:00] 31st, 2025. Detective Brennan Rio, July 2nd. I filed harassment complaint with exhibits July 7th through 24th.

[00:10:07] Ryan Michaels: Uh, real response. I added evidence in contact with the da. July 31st. I requested a follow up call in person discussion to this very day, it's September 3rd. I haven't heard anything back from real, nothing. A couple follow ups, nothing. We wonder why things keep going on and getting bigger and bigger. It's because literally there's no solution.

[00:10:23] Ryan Michaels: There's no follow through. There's nothing On July 30th through August 25th, 2025. Officer Odes report and record inaccuracy on July 30th. I filed a complaint at the Bur PD officer Odes wrote report that falsely stated, again, I don't blame him. I put that in an email to you, which you have yet to respond to me on.

[00:10:41] Ryan Michaels: And he said that the AG cited with DHHS. That's not what I said. I have that corroborated by my own recorded, which I'm asking for the record to be corrected, but I have her back when anyone, 'cause granted that stuff doesn't matter. On August 25 on through a FOIA request provided by the town manager, Capello, I obtained [00:11:00] a copy of this report and saw the accurate.

[00:11:01] Ryan Michaels: C the same day I sent a civil email to both yourself, Arthur, and you chief down correcting the record clarified. I never said the ags side of the DHHS. I said the Ag G'S office has ignored my documented evidence, explained why details matter. False details accumulate, and the accumulation has already cost me my children.

[00:11:22] Ryan Michaels: That's why all this is tied together and offered my audio recording of the conversation with odes is proof. As of September 3rd, 2025, neither Capella or Chief Town has responded. The record remains inaccurate despite my civil evidence backed request on July 31st through August 9th, 2025, July 31st promised in writing you did, sir, that you would quote for sure, meet with me by the end of the week on August 9th when Officer Estro up to my house.

[00:11:50] Ryan Michaels: Instead, he told me that you were on Vacation Promise broken August 2nd through ninth, 2025 on August 2nd. I was promised officer Desk would call me [00:12:00] back after a phone conversation. He never did. And like I said, exactly a week later when he came out to my house, that's when he had mentioned that you were on vacation.

[00:12:07] Ryan Michaels: And I brought it up to him that he still hasn't called me. Um, August 12th, 13th, uh, 2025. Officer Siler, August 12th called in a harassment complaint. Officer Schiffler hung up on me. I called dispatch back, reported the hangup and requested ano another Dispatch promised or let me reread that. I called dispatch back, reported the hangup and requested another officer.

[00:12:30] Ryan Michaels: Dispatch promised. Follow up to this day, no officer has came, nothing. Officers ler just straight up hung up on me and then that's it. August 13th, I filed a formal written complaint document in Schiffer's misconduct, selective enforcement of no trespass orders and conflict of interest, discussing my social media with the very person I was seeking protection from.

[00:12:50] Ryan Michaels: As of September 3rd, no response from Schiffler Chief or Town Leadership. August 14th, officer Pilkington went to the station and no one followed up after [00:13:00] August 12th or 13th Ton said he was on detail and couldn't be bothered. He repeated repeatedly, drove away while I was speaking. And when I said that, I had warned that, that I warned his ongoing treatment could cost him his job.

[00:13:11] Ryan Michaels: Based on the cumulative mistreatment from Burwood pd. He mocked me and said, oh, I'm so scared. On March 14th, 2025 context, Pilkington previously served me with Bid Offord d. It just no trespass order. After admitting, he barely skims my emails, including the one where I was asked to review that lawfulness of the order being served.

[00:13:30] Ryan Michaels: It's, he served it anyway without investigation. Later, I obtained body cam footage through FOIA confirming that. His police report that day contained almost no detail, falsely stated, I was not cooperative. I have my own recording to disprove this. Patterns observed multiple officers and leadership made commitments, calls, meetings, and follow ups.

[00:13:48] Ryan Michaels: None were honored, written promises. Chief town real and verbal assurances. Odes, sch, and penington were consistently, consistently broken. Reports OD DIN 10 contain false and [00:14:00] misleading details that I can prove with recording. When I commonly request corrections and provide proof, leadership ignores me.

[00:14:06] Ryan Michaels: Behavior escalated from ignoring to mocking and retaliatory treatment. Overall verdict. Leadership does not treat facts with the seriousness. They deserve reasonable request. Written confirmation that my harassment complaint is officially filed and under review a clear timeline and point of contact for follow up.

[00:14:22] Ryan Michaels: Written assurance that retaliation and proper evidence, access and gatekeeping will cease immediately. And correction of inaccurate records when proof is provided. So, facts, not false statements, guide outcomes. That is what I handed you. What are your opinions on that? 

[00:14:36] Arthur- Town Manager: I'm not gonna give you one until I have time to review it and look into things.

[00:14:39] Arthur- Town Manager: Okay. And how I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that yes or no. Okay. And how long is a reasonable amount of time to 

[00:14:44] Ryan Michaels: expect a response from you guys? Couple weeks, two weeks. So it was the 17th. Okay. 

[00:14:51] Arthur- Town Manager: Give or take, I'm not gonna promise you an exact date 'cause I have seven other thou, 7,000 other people in town that I, I work for also.

[00:14:59] Ryan Michaels: Yeah. But [00:15:00] this one's right in front of you. You guys keep giving me excuses as to why J Just give me a time. I'm not, I'm gonna tell you what time it is. You give whatever time you want, whatever time 

[00:15:09] Arthur- Town Manager: you think is right. I don't do your job. I'll reply to you in two weeks. With what I have done, and it may be you probably won't want my reply.

[00:15:16] Arthur- Town Manager: You may like my reply. I don't know until I look into it, but I am not going to get into personnel issues with you. That is not your pri what personnel issue do you mean? You, well, you, you've, uh, filed complaints against personnel, so any investigation already looking into that we do is not gonna be discussed with you.

[00:15:34] Arthur- Town Manager: You filed a complaint against the chief. Okay. I'm not gonna discuss with you any kind of investigation or anything else. 'cause that's between, that's his personal file. Nothing to do with you. Um, I didn't 

[00:15:47] Ryan Michaels: ask for that specifically, but I mean, if through FOIA I can get discipline records for everybody, that, that is definitely my business.

[00:15:53] Arthur- Town Manager: Nope, you can get any, you can get the final outcome of the investigation. Okay. Alright. [00:16:00] So 

[00:16:00] Ryan Michaels: two weeks. So the 17th, I'll be looking for an email if that's all right. And. See this is, this is hard because I expected a human to human conversation here and I ended up having to read the whole thing to you 'cause you didn't 

[00:16:12] Arthur- Town Manager: want to read it.

[00:16:12] Arthur- Town Manager: And I, you chose, you chose to read it to us. We told you that we would take it and read it and get back to you. You chose to go through it today. You can't walk into a meeting and give somebody a four page document and say, okay, let's talk about it without having the whole document before. That's not exactly 

[00:16:30] Ryan Michaels: how well I had my divorce paperwork put in front of me and told I need to get mental health help.

[00:16:33] Ryan Michaels: Has he talked over me and I looked to you. Correct. That happened. It was given to me. Yeah. So what can, can I ask you why it is that Denise is watching evidence footage as the time that he'll reply in two weeks? I'm asking you right now, sir, and I'm telling you that the Tom Edges told you he'll reply.

[00:16:53] Ryan Michaels: That's two weeks. That's completely irrelevant. I'm asking you appointed direct question, like you're not gonna like where I'm going next because. That These are my [00:17:00] pointed questions I have. I didn't ask you any questions. Is your goal here to literally not answer any one of my questions? My goal here is 

[00:17:07] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: to Wright Michaels like it was in the very beginning, was to see if I could help you.

[00:17:12] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: I genuinely tried to help you. Okay, so then, and you left here and since that day, it's been nothing more than this. Okay? This back and forth is not productive. Alright, Mr. Michaels, I'm gonna say one last thing and then I am leaving this room. Okay? So you're not gonna answer any questions they have. Do you want to see your children?

[00:17:33] Ryan Michaels: I think that's an extremely. Unfair and disgusting question for you to ask me before you control the situation and walk outta this room, Mr. Michaels. Mr. Michaels, 

[00:17:44] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: I'm willing to supervise for you to see your children. 

[00:17:48] Ryan Michaels: That doesn't fix the problem. It doesn't. It doesn't. I could, and I appreciate you even saying that.

[00:17:54] Ryan Michaels: I 

[00:17:54] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: legitimately would, but I'm willing to me be a supervisor so that [00:18:00] you can see your children. That's, that's, I'm going far and far and far beyond. I, I am trying to help you, Mr. Michaels, listen, and this is what I get in return. No, that's, and I do not appreciate it. I really don't. I don't. That is the fir my, my, I am very a genuine person.

[00:18:19] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Very genuine. You are making, making. Why did you offer that to 

[00:18:24] Ryan Michaels: me before? You're making 

[00:18:25] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: assessments about me that you do not even know me, Mr. 

[00:18:29] Ryan Michaels: Michaels? No, actually, really? It seems like you're pretty defensive and you won't allow me to talk and it's all over this recording. All over it. You don't listen.

[00:18:37] Ryan Michaels: You don't listen. Appreciate you offering that to me. I do listen. Then why didn't you offer that before? I do appreciate you offering that now, but that doesn't fix the overall problem. Right now I care about accuracy documents that 

[00:18:48] Arthur- Town Manager: are being used against you. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You care about seeing your kids 'cause you sat here and said that.

[00:18:52] Arthur- Town Manager: Of course I do kids in two and a half years. So the offer being made now, it is up to you to make that decision. 

[00:18:57] Ryan Michaels: That is not solving my problem. [00:19:00] The person is controlling the entire system. Me seeing my kids. Isn't the, what do you realize? I thought that was the ultimate maintenance of Michael's. 

[00:19:07] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: No offense.

[00:19:08] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: No offense. Truthfully. Truthfully, what, what you're saying without words is that your kids are, I'm trying to give you an opportunity to see your children. You've been telling people, me included, you haven't seen them in 15 months. What is seeing 'em? 

[00:19:25] Ryan Michaels: Let's say you and I went to go see 'em right now, it's an opportunity to see your children.

[00:19:30] Ryan Michaels: Under the control and manipulation and abuse of a woman who has put me in this situation. I can't see my kids without my control. 

[00:19:38] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: I'm the one that, I'm the one that offered this. No one else did I know who you are. No one else in the world, just me. I did. I went out and looked to see if it was possible for me to do this.

[00:19:48] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: Thus, that's why I have that order. And if you have, can I do it? 

[00:19:52] Arthur- Town Manager: If you have an issue with the court article, back to the court and get it changed, and 

[00:19:56] Ryan Michaels: if you follow my stuff, do you see that I'm making a foyer request to, [00:20:00] to DHS that costs $50,000. I, I'll be 

[00:20:03] Arthur- Town Manager: honest with you, if it doesn't have anything to do with, with, I understand burwick, I throw it into a file, I do not read it.

[00:20:08] Arthur- Town Manager: I that if it doesn't have anything to do with burwick, I can't control. Do you guys don't see what's happening? 

[00:20:14] Ryan Michaels: Do you guys think you have an idea of what's going on and no one has a better idea than me? I'm going through it. I need, I appreciate your offer to be there for my kids. That's not that, that would be a bandaid solution.

[00:20:25] Ryan Michaels: I need to fix this. This person has successfully done this and kept my kids 

[00:20:29] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: from for 16 months. I dunno what more I can do for you. I understand your aggravation and I thought, I thought that the goal was, and you and I talked again that one time, we talked here in this room, person to person for quite some time.

[00:20:46] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: And at the end of that, you, you continue to say, you have not seen your children. You want to see your children. And I just said, Mr. Michael, I'm like, this guy wants to see his kids. I can see you getting worked up [00:21:00] today, but apparently it's not about your kids. I'm saying, I'll let you see your kids. I'm willing to do it right here.

[00:21:07] Tim- Chief of Berwick Police Department: I'll be the supervising person. How do you say that? It's not about my kids. Why are you 

[00:21:11] Ryan Michaels: framing, I'm so misunderstood because of the 

[00:21:13] Arthur- Town Manager: words you're using. You know what? This meeting is going nowhere. I'm going to end it. You have the opportunity to see your children and I'll be back to you in two weeks.

[00:21:25] Arthur- Town Manager: We're just going round in circles. 

You made it hear from me. That's for sure.